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Jun 07 14:21:15 <aratux> hello
Jun 07 14:21:21 <aratux> alaa, I don't think that post is nice
Jun 07 14:22:17 <aratux> you are not responding !?
Jun 07 14:22:59 <MohammedSameer> aratux: alaa is being disconnected
Jun 07 14:23:05 <MohammedSameer> aratux: every 2-3 minutes
Jun 07 14:23:14 <aratux> he had enough time to post his thread ?
Jun 07 14:23:17 <MohammedSameer> problem with his DSL connection
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Jun 07 14:23:38 <MohammedSameer> aratux: he connects every now and then over ssh to c anything new
Jun 07 14:23:46 <MohammedSameer> aratux: what thread ??
Jun 07 14:24:41 <aratux> he will know
Jun 07 14:24:47 <aratux> but I see we agreed not to post it that way
Jun 07 14:24:53 <aratux> I don't like that action
Jun 07 14:25:51 <MohammedSameer> aratux: donno, I didn't read it yet.
Jun 07 14:26:11 <alaa> DarKnesS_WolF: I think we'll explain wiki syntax to n00bs and let html to those who know it
Jun 07 14:26:13 <MohammedSameer> aratux: you can email him, or wait a few minutes and he'll appear ?
Jun 07 14:26:15 alaa alaa` aratux Jun 07 14:26:16 alaa alaa` Jun 07 14:26:17 <alaa> aratux: whats wrong?
Jun 07 14:26:26 <MohammedSameer> alaa aratux is here asking about you
Jun 07 14:26:33 <alaa> MohammedSameer: noticed
Jun 07 14:26:36 <aratux> I think I told yousef that cross referencing is not fine
Jun 07 14:26:38 <MohammedSameer> [14:23] <aratux> he had enough time to post his thread ?
Jun 07 14:26:42 <DarKnesS_WolF> ok alaa nice deal
Jun 07 14:26:43 <alaa> aratux: and why was my thread removed
Jun 07 14:26:44 <MohammedSameer> [14:24] <aratux> he will know
Jun 07 14:26:44 <MohammedSameer> [14:24] <aratux> but I see we agreed not to post it that way
Jun 07 14:26:44 <MohammedSameer> [14:24] <aratux> I don't like that action
Jun 07 14:27:32 <MohammedSameer> invalid  thread
Jun 07 14:27:37 <MohammedSameer> gr8 progress
Jun 07 14:27:48 <aratux> alaa, consult with yousef assad
Jun 07 14:27:56 <aratux> we agreed you do it on eglug.org
Jun 07 14:28:07 <aratux> we are contacted differently as we are founders of it
Jun 07 14:28:10 <alaa> aratux: this is not how I understood it, but I only came at the end of the discussion
Jun 07 14:28:19 <aratux> if you want to discuss it on eglug.org, discuss it as you like
Jun 07 14:28:21 <alaa> aratux: and how on earth can we cooperate if cross referencing is not allowed
Jun 07 14:28:36 <aratux> is this thread a cooperation  ?
Jun 07 14:28:45 <alaa> aratux: and you're allowed to post links to la lestar academy but you're not allowed to post links to a sister lug?
Jun 07 14:28:56 <alaa> aratux: I did consult with Youssef
Jun 07 14:29:00 <aratux> never heard of lestar academy
Jun 07 14:29:07 <MohammedSameer> star academy
Jun 07 14:29:19 <alaa> aratux: yeah its a cooperation
Jun 07 14:29:31 <aratux> how ?
Jun 07 14:29:32 <aratux> :-)
Jun 07 14:30:02 <alaa> aratux: it asks Linux Egypt members to post their ideas for the action plan, at eglug or at linux-egypt
Jun 07 14:30:20 <alaa> aratux: so eosbc eglug and linux-egypt can come up with a unified action plan
Jun 07 14:30:24 <aratux> it didn't ask it that way
Jun 07 14:30:27 <alaa> aratux: how is this not cooperation
Jun 07 14:30:32 <alaa> aratux: it did ask it that way
Jun 07 14:30:37 <aratux> you didn't write it that way
Jun 07 14:30:43 <aratux> the post is still there, btw
Jun 07 14:30:58 <alaa> aratux: it said feel free to post blah blah, main discussion will be at eglug but we will monitor replies to this thread
Jun 07 14:31:01 <aratux> it said "the primary discussion will be @ http://www.eglug.org but we'll try to keep track of any replies here."
Jun 07 14:31:19 <alaa> so its asking linux egypt members to choose where to post
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Jun 07 14:31:27 <aratux> ohh, really ?
Jun 07 14:31:48 <alaa> main discussion will be in eglug due to the fact that enzo will talk there and that the draft plan will be on our wiki
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Jun 07 14:32:08 <alaa> its a technical nessecity, a single place has to be chosen for the draft
Jun 07 14:32:14 <aratux> and LE is a founding member, BTW
Jun 07 14:32:19 <alaa> and the place with the wiki sounds write
Jun 07 14:32:33 <aratux> alaa, we discussed it for a long time, me and youssef
Jun 07 14:32:37 <aratux> so we won't rediscuss it again
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Jun 07 14:32:55 <aratux> I won't leave my work to rediscuss over and over
Jun 07 14:33:18 <alaa> aratux: funky, how come no single linux egypt member knows about it
Jun 07 14:33:45 <alaa> aratux: I did consult with youssef, so obviously there is a misunderstanding somehwere
Jun 07 14:33:55 <alaa> I don't see how this is a hostile action
Jun 07 14:34:15 <alaa> as I said it is common practice to post links and mentions of other events on linux-egypt forum
Jun 07 14:34:21 <alaa> why should eglug be excluded from that
Jun 07 14:34:35 <alaa> and how on earth are we ever going to cooperate then?
Jun 07 14:35:07 <aratux> eglug is not excluded from anything
Jun 07 14:35:26 <aratux> plus, linux-egypt members will know when things are there
Jun 07 14:35:27 <alaa> no apparently its excluded from linking
Jun 07 14:35:33 <aratux> ohh, yeah
Jun 07 14:35:35 <alaa> huh there meaning??
Jun 07 14:35:41 <aratux> you can find it is not mentioned in the main page either
Jun 07 14:35:42 <alaa> where is the thread, I can't find it
Jun 07 14:35:53 <alaa> huh?
Jun 07 14:35:57 <alaa> ana mosh fahem 7aga
Jun 07 14:36:03 <aratux> no links for eglug in the main page at all
Jun 07 14:36:38 <alaa> aratux: yeah I do realise this, thats ok by me
Jun 07 14:36:49 <aratux> you realize what ?
Jun 07 14:36:53 <alaa> aratux: you're not requeired to post links on the home page
Jun 07 14:36:56 <aratux> that there are no links for eglug at all ?
Jun 07 14:37:08 <alaa> yeah
Jun 07 14:37:11 <aratux> even our first post in the page doesn't mention eglug ??
Jun 07 14:37:20 <aratux> ohh
Jun 07 14:37:22 <aratux> great
Jun 07 14:37:24 <alaa> aratux: ana mosh fahem 7aga
Jun 07 14:37:31 <alaa> aratux: please make your words clear
Jun 07 14:37:31 <aratux> open www.linux-egypt.org
Jun 07 14:37:39 <aratux> do you see eglug linked there or not !!?
Jun 07 14:37:41 <alaa> aratux: ok the home poge has a mention of eglug
Jun 07 14:37:48 <aratux> so you are not excluded
Jun 07 14:37:54 <alaa> aratux: I know about this (I thought you meant some links section or something)
Jun 07 14:38:02 <aratux> and at the current time, there are no other links to any other LUG
Jun 07 14:38:07 <aratux> just your LUG is linked there
Jun 07 14:38:16 <aratux> do you see any other links section ?
Jun 07 14:38:43 <alaa> aratux: you said no cross referencing
Jun 07 14:38:48 <alaa> aratux: its not me who said that
Jun 07 14:39:05 <aratux> and it was you who said eglug is excluded from linux-egypt, not me
Jun 07 14:39:13 <aratux> alaa, feel free to post it in eglug
Jun 07 14:39:34 <alaa> aratux: gah ana mosh fahem 7aga, isn't a rule of no cross references and exclusion?
Jun 07 14:39:35 <aratux> but, as linux-egypt is a founding member of EOSBC, we feel that it should be posted by linux-egypt itself
Jun 07 14:39:50 <aratux> pointing to other lugs participating in the process, including eglug too
Jun 07 14:39:52 <alaa> aratux: that what should be posted on linux egypt itself?
Jun 07 14:40:01 <aratux> but it should originate from inside linux-egypt, right ?
Jun 07 14:40:20 <aratux> I don't understand you
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Jun 07 14:43:29 <aratux> hi YoussefAssad
Jun 07 14:43:36 <YoussefAssad> alaa
Jun 07 14:43:50 <aratux> YoussefAssad, what we have agreed to do ?
Jun 07 14:44:02 <YoussefAssad> Do you want the document in latex, dvi, or pdf?
Jun 07 14:44:03 <YoussefAssad> hi aratux
Jun 07 14:44:13 * YoussefAssad prods alaa with a pole
Jun 07 14:44:40 <aratux> YoussefAssad, now I found that Alaa has posted about EOSBC in LE, saying "the primary discussion will be @ http://www.eglug.org but we'll try to keep track of any replies here."
Jun 07 14:44:49 <aratux> is that what we have agreed to do ?
Jun 07 14:44:54 <YoussefAssad> aratux: We're posting on eglug and LE.
Jun 07 14:45:10 <aratux> YoussefAssad, we said you can do it on eglug
Jun 07 14:45:13 <aratux> and we will do it on LE
Jun 07 14:45:18 <aratux> if I remember correctly
Jun 07 14:46:02 <YoussefAssad> aratux: and that is exactly what alaa's post means.
Jun 07 14:46:23 <YoussefAssad> You remember correctly, and that is what alaa's post means. Now let's get some work done, shall we?
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Jun 07 14:46:30 <aratux> no, I don't see it like that
Jun 07 14:46:32 <aratux> <YoussefAssad> Bass do me a favor; can you post el mawdoo3 da on linux-egypt.org tayeb?
Jun 07 14:46:35 <alaa``> lah mosh moken
Jun 07 14:46:50 <alaa``> someone post me since my last reply
Jun 07 14:47:00 <aratux> alaa's post was all about eglug, and I see it is not the same thing we agreed to do
Jun 07 14:47:06 <YoussefAssad> alaa do you want the cod in latex, dvi, or pdf?
Jun 07 14:47:27 <alaa``> aratux: you say the thread is still there, I can't find it anywhere
Jun 07 14:47:32 <alaa``> YoussefAssad: lyx or latex
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Jun 07 14:47:45 <YoussefAssad> aratux: Then you see his post wrong. Efham ya 3ammi his post then ta3ala etkhane2 law la2etha fiha 7aga ghalat.
Jun 07 14:47:47 <alaa``> YoussefAssad: urpmi hevea does the trick BTW
Jun 07 14:47:48 <MohammedSameer> YoussefAssad: send me a copy
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Jun 07 14:48:17 <YoussefAssad> Desouky, let's just get some work done, okay? The post clearly says that discussion momken yetem hena we henak. Khalas ba2a ya sidi.
Jun 07 14:48:24 <aratux> YoussefAssad,  I have read it totally
Jun 07 14:48:41 <alaa``> aratux: the post does not violate any Linux Egypt rules AFAIK
Jun 07 14:48:48 <aratux> YoussefAssad, I can't find a place where it says discussion can be here or there
Jun 07 14:48:52 <YoussefAssad> Desouky: If we post the action plan I have written fil wiki 3andena, this means that primary work will be on the wiki. The wiki feen?
Jun 07 14:49:07 <aratux> in addition, this is embarassing us, as we are founders, and we should post it there
Jun 07 14:49:16 <aratux> but we will post in the suitable time
Jun 07 14:49:38 <aratux> your work is on the wiki
Jun 07 14:49:50 <aratux> I have nothing to do with the wiki
Jun 07 14:49:51 <alaa``> aratux: do you censor all misunderstandings?
Jun 07 14:50:06 <aratux> alaa, I don't see this question fits well here
Jun 07 14:50:13 <aratux> we are not talking about normal posts, ok ?
Jun 07 14:50:21 <aratux> we are talking about cooperation between LE and eglug
Jun 07 14:50:32 <YoussefAssad> *sigh*
Jun 07 14:50:40 <alaa``> aratux: wth is this founder thing, how come no one was ever told you went and founded blah blah
Jun 07 14:50:58 <alaa``> aratux: it should be embaressing that enzo reached out to us not to you aslan
Jun 07 14:50:59 <aratux> alaa, please this is not related to eglug
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Jun 07 14:51:02 <YoussefAssad> aratux: Which part of `we'll keep track of postings here' is not clear?
Jun 07 14:51:14 <aratux> alaa`` is this the cooperation ?
Jun 07 14:51:28 <aratux> thanks guys for the cooperation
Jun 07 14:51:29 <aratux> good luck
Jun 07 14:51:33 <aratux> salam
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