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Thanks to all the hard work by the fglrx packaging team, DRI, MESA, Xorg, Radeon,... etc people!
I've been using fglrx with my laptop since I've had it:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400
And to the people behind the Debian packaging..
* xserver-xorg-video-radeon from testing.
* libdrm-intel1 and libdrm2 from unstable
* libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa-glx from experimental
vader:~# apt-get --purge remove fglrx-driver fglrx-kernel-src fglrx-kernel-2.6.26-1-686 fglrx-sourceReading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 17 not upgraded.
After this operation, 38.8MB disk space will be freed.
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I probably lost the ability to suspend and resume but I don't usually do it with that laptop.
Now let's hope my lapop at work will be adapted easily too :)
UPDATE: Seems you lose OpenGL 2.0 if you use the free driver. If you are doing OpenGL stuff like me then you are in trouble ;-|
This post has a bit of my history and emotions. It can be skipped!
The summary is: Katoob has a new maintainer.
Yes, a long time.
Back in 2002, Gtk 2.x was just released. Efforts were spent porting, rewriting and redesigning parts of GNOME. The aim was GNOME 2.0 and later on 2.x
Previously, we had Gtk which did not support Arabic at all.
At that time, the only usable Arabic capable GUI editor was a closed source one, Axmedit. I was also trying to learn programming and write something useful. Katoob was born at that time. The aim ? provide the Arabic user with something usable and the secret agenda was me learning Gtk and get my hands dirty with C. Not having enough skills to contribute to something as large as GNOME.
It wasn't called Katoob (Which means something like an exaggerated writer in arabic). Me and Alaa wanted to call it gDhad (G is for GNU, Gtk, GPL, ... and Dhad is the letter. Arabic is known as the language of "dhad") but a miscommunication lead to that name.
The problem is that it was already used by a few of my friends. A lot of testing has been done in the beginning. I still remember feeding it various media files as well as random garbage to see what will happen.
Years later, the whole thing grew into a pile of spaghetti code. It was the time for me to start learning C++. What else can I use to learn it ?
Then 0.5 was born. A bit cleaner, C++, Gtkmm and moving it to my own place. It even survived my migration from CVS to SVN last year.
It also started to be used by more people.
As I become busier with work and as my interests have started to change, I found myself incapable of maintaining it. It's actually a motivation problem more than anything else. I'm not involved into Arabization issues (I was never involved but people claimed I was ;-)) and I wasn't getting enough testing.
I don't use it a lot anymore. Everything supports Arabic now. I don't think we need that project anymore.
I can also use Emacs to read and write Arabic
OK. This is the beauty of FOSS. The project has been dead upstream for a while now. It survived until it was removed from lenny.
Now me and 2 other users decided to adapt it. port it or rewrite it in gtk2.
We are having a discussion about the whole situation.
To anyone still using multi-gnome-terminal: Please share with us the features you were actually using. These are the ones more likely to be implemented and no new features will probably be added, maybe help us coding and/or testing or participate in the discussions.
I have 2 laptops. My personal one at home and my work one at the office. Both are running testing. A month or two ago, I did a dist-upgrade on the home one. Later on I rebooted (DUH!) it for a reason I can't remember just to end up with very tiny fonts under GNOME. It took me some time to tweak them back again and play with the GNOME anti-aliasing dialog. Now if you know me well, you know that the last thing someone should do to me is to touch my font settings. I have a very sensitive eye (Because I have a very low vision) and I hardly tweak the fonts. All went somehow fine after that. Problem is I wasn't sure whether it was fglrx or GNOME who's responsible for that.
I always do a dist-upgrade everyday (!) but never bother to restart X or reboot. A few days ago, GNOME at the office crashed on me and guess what ? I ended up with the same problem again. Fonts. Tried tweaking it this time but no use. Copying the font settings from the other laptop was not an option because I'm using a large LCD at work but I can't afford to buy one for my personal laptop :-)
I thought it was fglrx, downgraded the driver but no use.
I decided that's it. I always used GNOME because I know Gtk+, gtkmm and somehow pygtk but the fonts breaking again was really too much.
I ended up switching back to KDE 3.x at work and at home. I just don't feel like using 2 different environments. This will confuse me ;-)
I remember I used KDE 1, GNOME 1.4, KDE 2.2, window maker, GNOME2, tried all the window managers out there until I settled with pekwm, hpanel, a few dockapps and that was my custom assembled DE. Until I switched to amd64 and the version I was using of pekwm (It was a CVS snapshot) started throwing exceptions. I wasn't really sure why and didn't have time to fix it. I wanted my laptop to be up and running again. I ended up trying the latest release but it did not work with hpanel (It was a hacked version because it wasn't originally working fine). and that's why I went back to GNOME.
Anyway, No flame please but KDE just rocks, it just works! I'm still having problems with fonts under Konsole (Bye multi-gnome-terminal) but I just need to free a few hours to test all the fonts out there.
Amarok works fine although the UI is a bit "cluttered" (But I managed to get it to crash :-))
I remember my phone complaining about not being correctly unmounted and warning about data corruption whenever I unplug it from the USB cable after asking GNOME to unmount it, KDE simply doesn't have this problem. The bad thing is that they removed "panel icons zooming upon mouse hover" but the tooltips are large and clear. Of course Arabic is still not that good under Konsole but I'd blame myself for that :-)
Konqueror is crappy as usual. I'm still using Opera :-(
Well done KDE team, Debian KDE team, GNOME team and Debian GNOME KDE team.
Thanks for the fish :-)
Now I guess I need to get myself familiar with the KDE/Qt API.
I'm neither ranting nor blaming. I'm just expressing my feelings.
I knew before it happened and I acknoledged the removel. It's dead upstream and I don't think it can be easily ported. I've been using this terminal since 4 or 5 years. Let's see if I can live without it. I know there are a lot but this one was lightweight and it was using zvt which was noticeably faster than vte.
This was one of the packages I worked on with "He" as part of the NM T&S and I quite learned a lot from it.
* Yes, they can upload crappy packages but we can ask to revoke an account.
* Yes, they can upload crappy packages but someone must sponsor the 1st upload.
* Yes, they can upload crap but a DD is advocating them. If they are smart enough to fool a DD to get an DM account then they are smart enough to fool him for the DD process.
* Yes, they can seek sponsors but finding sonsors is not that easy (At least for me).
Perhaps there's a way to identify the DM uploads so we can do more checks "not part of the process" ?
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[ 8 ] Choice 1: Wouter Verhelst
[ 9 ] Choice 2: Aigars Mahinovs
[ 6 ] Choice 3: Gustavo Franco
[ 1 ] Choice 4: Sam Hocevar
[ 1 ] Choice 5: Steve McIntyre
[ 5 ] Choice 6: Raphaël Hertzog
[ 7 ] Choice 7: Anthony Towns
[ 9 ] Choice 8: Simon Richter
[ 2 ] Choice 9: None Of The Above
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Thanks to all the people volunteering their time for Debian and FOSS, to my sponsors, to anyone who gave me a tip and to those involved in the NM process.
I'm now a proud DD!
* A month since I've been here in Finland and started working for Nokia
* I've got my creditcard PIN code in the morning (From the nordea bank suckers). At last they accepted my application but they decided to send the card to the wrong branch. 7 minutes on the phone to convince them to send it to another branch. It takes them also 2-3 days to send it to another branch!
* My debian.org account has been created and NOW I'm at last an official Debian Developer (Technically, this happened on the 14th. An hour ago ;-))